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Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:26 pm
by sutterfamily

Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:30 pm
by Grand Moff Larkin
I think there's gotta be something else going on with Walman and/or the future considerations but who knows

Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:36 pm
by sutterfamily
I can imagine something'll happen in the next few days that makes this a bit less baffling, yeah

Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:48 pm
by Grand Moff Larkin
The comment about the Sharks being happily stunned that Yzerman offered a 2nd rounder and didn't ask for anything in return is concerning

Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:09 pm
by sutterfamily
I guess but these fuckin twitter "reporters". Like for two weeks I heard that Ullmark had waived his NTC to go to Ottawa but, in fact, they just weren't ON his NTC list. So it's close but also inaccurate and fairly different.

So, you know, truth etc.

Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:21 pm
by Grand Moff Larkin
Shapiro seems to be a pretty solid dude and not prone to hyperbole, but who knows

It does get me that Wings fans were like "Maybe the Sharks agreed not to take someone the Wings wanted at #14" and instead they traded up and the Sabres are more likely to take someone the Wings want

Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:19 pm
by linseman
seems as plausible as anything

i kinda liked walman

Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:37 am
by Grand Moff Larkin
Wings supposedly in on Stamkos

I think they need one of Kane, Stamkos, or Marchessault for their top six. Somebody's gotta score goals there. Probably need another top-six guy if Perron doesn't return. Right now...

DeBrincat / Larkin / Raymond
Mazur / Compher / Stamkos
Rasmussen / Copp / Kasper
Fabbri / Veleno / Berggren
Fischer

Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:39 am
by Grand Moff Larkin
Wings are supposedly in on Trouba, which would be a... choice
We are told the Rangers may retain $2.5 million per year on the two remaining seasons of Trouba’s $8M annual cap charge. That represents 31.25 percent retention that would also be applied to the $12M in salary Trouba has coming over the next two seasons.
He wasn't good last year! Maybe bring back a Michigan Boy who is playing well (Matt Roy). I'm pretty sure Trouba will cost a second rounder or a prospect if there's retention.

Right now it's

Chiarot / Seider
Edvinsson / Petry
Maatta / Holl
Johansson

which isn't good, but swapping Trouba for Petry and moving Holl out doesn't make it much better. I'd rather spend 6 mil on Roy, put him with Edvinsson, and tell the Sharks to claim Holl on waivers.

Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 6:53 pm
by Grand Moff Larkin
Some Twitter guy proposed Trouba + Kakko for Holl (subsequently bought out) and Veleno, with some picks in the mix. That seems too good to be true so it probably isn't.

His occasional violent brain farts aside, I like Joe Veleno, but he's a 4th line center and Kakko has far more upside.

Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:23 pm
by Grand Moff Larkin
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Glad it’s only one year, mostly a question of the playoff bonus

Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:34 pm
by Grand Moff Larkin
So far Yzerman’s only done one move and it’s been good, waiting for Trouba or some other dumb thing to drop

Ghost, Fischer, and Sprong all out there. Sounds like Ghost is testing the market. I’d be happy with Fischer for another year. Sprong doesn’t seem worth it vs. Berggren.

Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:19 am
by Grand Moff Larkin
Datsyuk doing skills training at Wings prospect camp

You love to see it

Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 2:41 pm
by captain
when you can lock up Jack Campbell to a contract, you simply have to do it

Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 3:23 pm
by Grand Moff Larkin
Pretty sure he’ll be in the AHL as the veteran support to Cossa

Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 5:33 pm
by Grand Moff Larkin
Presumably:

DeBrincat / Larkin / Kane
Raymond / Compher / Tarasenko
Fischer / Copp / Rasmussen
Mazur / Veleno / Berggren
Motte

There’s still a path for Mazur or Kasper. Not sure if I forgot a depth forward signing.

Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 5:46 pm
by Grand Moff Larkin
Fabbri and a conditional fourth traded to Anaheim

I liked him, but spending that money on a guy who can’t stay healthy and is ideally a third liner when he is… not ideal

Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 9:14 pm
by sutterfamily
Forwards looking pretty good.

Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:49 am
by captain
that is not a bad group of forwards

now do the defence

Re: Thee Official 2023-2024 Detroit Red Wings Thread: Why, Jake, Why

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:16 am
by Grand Moff Larkin
As of right now

Chiarot / Seider
Edvinsson / Petry
Gustafsson/ Maatta

Holl / Johannsson / Lagesson

I think it mostly depends on how good Edvinsson can be and whether he can take some of Seider’s workload